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Webinar: Nuts and Bolts of Carve Out Cases

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March 17, 2023 @ 12:00 pm 1:00 pm

1 Participatory MCLE Credits; 1 Legal Specialization in Workers’ Compensation Law

This Webinar will address the carveout process from start to finish.  Ombudsperson Barbara Shogren-Lies and Judge Silberman (Ret) will provide insight to the practitioner of how the ADR process works and provide tips to the practitioners on what to do and what not to do when appearing on an ADR case. Topics covered will be, how to file a case, where to file the case, what forms to use, how to contact an ombudsperson, why to contact the ombudsperson, what to do if there is a 132a or S&W claim.  What to do with multiple employers when not all are part of carveout, or if they are part of different carveouts.  If you handle carveout cases you wont want to miss this webinar.

Non-Member Price – $75.00
Member Price – $55.00


Barbara Shogren Lies
Ombudspeson Shoegren Lies has been involved in workers compensation since 1983 when she served as a Vocational Expert.  In 2001 she became involved in ADR cases as an Ombudsperson and now serves as an Ombudsperson for 10 different carveouts.  In addition to workers compensation, she has worked with the PeaceCorps as well as conducted counseling and job training for high school students and the mentally challenged.  In addition to serving as an Ombudsperson, Ms. Lies has found time to co-author a book on carveouts called Alternative Dispute Resolution Handbook and give seminars to help educate the workers compensation community on the advantages of ADR.

Leonard Silberman
After graduating from Hastings Law School, Retired Judge Leonard Silberman because his legal carrier as a workers compensation defense attorney SCIF in 1971.  He went on to work as a partner at Zonni, Ginocchio and Taylor for 20 years before staring Silberman Law Offices.  He continued as a defense attorney until he became a Judge at the Santa Ana WCAB where he served as a judge for seven years until 2012.  Judge Silberman wrote a number of books on Vocational Rehabilitation in the 90s, and then went on to write books on 132a.   Most recently, since his retirement, Judge Silberman mediates and arbitrates carveout cases and has written a book on Carveouts with Barbara Shoegren Liens and Robert Wilyard entitled Alternative Dispute Resolution Handbook. 

Hon. Sharon Velzy

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